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King Diamond and Mercyful Fate => King Diamond and Mercyful Fate => Topic started by: Jackal on October 07, 2006, 07:58:29 pm

Title: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Jackal on October 07, 2006, 07:58:29 pm
With all do respect, I'm praying to Satan Livia isan't on the new album at all. King Diamond to me has always been the ultimate vocalist, and I was very dissapointed to hear vocals from someone not King on the Puppet Master. I'm not sure how I feel about the song "So sad" but I definitly did not like her on "Emerencia" or "Blue Eyes". I'd much rather hear King Diamond sing in falsetto instead of her or anyone else.

I also think she is very unecassery live. Except in "So Sad" which she does very good.

Don't get me wrong, she's a very talented singer. Infact, I'd love to have her in Nightwish. But not King Diamond. And hopefully not on the new album...

Please do not take offense, I do not mean to offend anyone.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Hellborn Goat on October 07, 2006, 08:23:41 pm
Well, King can do a wide range of voices on his own, so generally speaking, I agree that it's unnecessary for there to be another vocalist - but in the case of Puppet Master it was more appropriate for there to be those few bits of female singing.. it made it more authentic to have him singing a duet with a woman because of the romantic element of the story.. it might have been a bit odd if he sang a duet with himself, with one of his voices pretending to be the girl he's in love with.

So, I don't think Livia will be on the next album because the story is less likely to require that 'doomed romance' element, I would imagine the next story will be something totally different.

BTW, it's also like when he used a little girl as a guest vocalist crying "mummy!" on Abigail 2.. if King had done that himself it wouldn't have been so effective IMO!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Penumbra on October 08, 2006, 03:10:37 am
This thread reminds me about a friend of mine first time hearing the song "Magic" when Livia started to sing.

"LOL ! This man sounds like a woman !!"

 :gah:

Okay, back on topic.

I agree with you on the "No Livia on the next album" thing. But she is what made The Puppet Master unique and one of the many reasons i love that album. Put her on the next one and the magic fades.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Tuwin on October 08, 2006, 04:23:03 am
yup i have said it a million times before....Livia was GREAT on the puppet master and she needed to be there. She gave that album a kind of power that is not on any other king diamond record. She played the role of Victoria perfectly.

If you have her on another album it will only kill the essence, power, and uniqueness of the puppet master.

Right now the puppet master is the "Album with that great singer Livia Zita who sings for Victoria" you put her on another album and than the puppet master is "ohh one of those albums were king had Livia on" totally kills it

i vote to not have her on the next album and it has NOTHING to do with her vocals or how well she did on the puppet master. It has everything to do with keeping that album as great and unique as it is.

But i dont have to tell king this i am sure he knows.....he only does things that are right for the story and right for the mood of the album....what ever he does it great because he understands what he does and he does it well....he is not clouded by other judgments....it is the story and that is final....i love it!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Kingwild on October 08, 2006, 07:53:21 am
King always knows what he does...if he puts livia singing in the next album, i'm sure it will be for the best  :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: maarten. on October 08, 2006, 01:00:14 pm
if there would be a sequel to the puppet master, i sure hope livia would be on it again, but for a total new album.... no thanks
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Goatsnake on October 08, 2006, 02:00:05 pm
King always knows what he does...if he puts livia singing in the next album, i'm sure it will be for the best  :king:

That true! :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Ahh, Conspiracy on October 08, 2006, 02:42:24 pm
I wouldn't mind it, but i think it was just a one time thing, it just fitted the story.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Maggotcrusher666 on October 08, 2006, 03:21:55 pm
I think livia should definitely sing on the next album.  Not as much as on the puppetmaster but I'd love to hear another track with livia even if its just backup vocals on a chorus or something.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Satan's Portrait on October 08, 2006, 04:56:06 pm
I have a feeling that she might contribute a little bit in other aspects, but not to the extent as on The puppet Master.


I think Livia should have a solo career or something.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Mortuary on October 09, 2006, 12:15:04 am
I agree with Jackal. I prefer King when he is alone. (No sexual intentions here).
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Horrorscope on October 09, 2006, 03:37:24 am
I would'nt mind if she was on it.From what I've read,the new story will have female characters so I would welcome her doing one of the parts.If anything she could do backing vocals like mentioned before or maybe some chanting/omen sounding stuff"ohh how I would love that".
Note:Omen=The movie,Whatever you call that evil choir music :)
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Vixie on October 09, 2006, 03:51:06 am
None of my businness. If it goes about King Diamond's creations: I take what is given. And I never was disappointed.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Frozen_Shade on October 09, 2006, 09:34:22 am
I think, that Livia shouldn't take part in the new album. I can't forget how King performed all those female characters on all of his albums, and suddenly *poof* - Livia appears on "The Puppet Master". My first thought was like: "Wtf? Isn'tKing capacible of performing in his old style, that he has to ask a woman to sing the females' parts?".
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: maarten. on October 09, 2006, 10:58:52 am
BTW, it's also like when he used a little girl as a guest vocalist crying "mummy!" on Abigail 2.. if King had done that himself it wouldn't have been so effective IMO!


ow, forget to ask this, but is it the girl of the movie 'the poltergost" (not sure how to write it, but that movie of that girl talking o the TV and that old tree kidnapping that boy)? because it sure sounds like it. i don't have the movie anymore, otherwise i could look it up again, so does anyone knows this?
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: King on October 09, 2006, 12:23:47 pm
i cant wait ,with or without livia on the album i think its gonna be good
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: BlackDiamond on October 09, 2006, 12:35:24 pm
I always loved when King did the female vocals...all the vocal work for Miriam (and Miriam possessed by Abigail) and then Abigail in the second album...

although I can understand that Livia was needed because it was a song that was in the style of a duet, not just a narration of a story.

That said, I hope King's next album is in the narrated format just because I miss that old style. I don't think Livia being in the next album would be such a good idea. The band is called King Diamond for a reason.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: miranda on October 10, 2006, 07:05:41 am
ow, forget to ask this, but is it the girl of the movie 'the poltergost" (not sure how to write it, but that movie of that girl talking o the TV and that old tree kidnapping that boy)? because it sure sounds like it. i don't have the movie anymore, otherwise i could look it up again, so does anyone knows this?
she passed away shortly after the last poltergeist so i dont think so..well unless i have my dates wrong (which i probibly do)
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Hellborn Goat on October 10, 2006, 10:12:18 am
she passed away shortly after the last poltergeist so i dont think so..well unless i have my dates wrong (which i probibly do)

You're right, I remember hearing about that. Just checked on imdb.com, and she died in 1988 which was the same year as the 3rd Poltergeist film was released, and obviously many years before the Abigail 2 album. Her name was Heather O' Rouke. She was born in 1975, so was still very young when she passed away.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001576/
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Tuwin on October 10, 2006, 04:31:53 pm
ohh man....thats sad i never new that :(
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Tri Landau on October 11, 2006, 09:10:17 am
I think, that Livia shouldn't take part in the new album. I can't forget how King performed all those female characters on all of his albums, and suddenly *poof* - Livia appears on "The Puppet Master". My first thought was like: "Wtf? Isn'tKing capacible of performing in his old style, that he has to ask a woman to sing the females' parts?".
I didn't like her at first, but then I was like why the hell he shouldn't do something different for a change? (besides she's awesome) However, I don't want her to be on next album, because it's cool that The Puppet Master is unique because of her.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Beelzebub on October 11, 2006, 12:01:38 pm
Logic tells me that since she was singing backs live on songs that she didn't appear on the studio versions, I wouldn't be surprised to see her on the next tour. And they're married and wanna be together. But to justify her presence even more, she'll have to be featured on a couple of songs for the next album. She can't ride off So Sad for another tour.

Having said that, I also don't want her on the next album/tour. I don't wanna start a flame war, but I don't think she's that good of a singer. Yes, the character fitted the Puppet Master story and album, but he coulda gotten a better singer to complement his style. She's too monotone compared to him.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Tri Landau on October 11, 2006, 12:10:52 pm
but he coulda gotten a better singer to complement his style.
Such as...?
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Tuwin on October 11, 2006, 04:37:17 pm
i dont know i thought the contrast was what was so brilliant on the puppet master....but maybe that was just me...
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: BlackDiamond on October 11, 2006, 05:18:21 pm
Logic tells me that since she was singing backs live on songs that she didn't appear on the studio versions, I wouldn't be surprised to see her on the next tour. And they're married and wanna be together. But to justify her presence even more, she'll have to be featured on a couple of songs for the next album. She can't ride off So Sad for another tour.

Having said that, I also don't want her on the next album/tour. I don't wanna start a flame war, but I don't think she's that good of a singer. Yes, the character fitted the Puppet Master story and album, but he coulda gotten a better singer to complement his style. She's too monotone compared to him.

You're walking on eggshells saying that around here lol. Everyone loves her. But I agree with you, I don't think she is a very good singer. She sounds like any other person in my old highschool choir, which isn't bad, it's just not good enough to be featured on an album.

I've said it before on the old forum, I wasn't thrilled with her vocals and *gasp* not crazy about The Puppet Master album. I definitely didn't hate it, it just doesn't have much replay value for me because I don't like the vocals.

But I hated Tarja's vocals too. I think it's just choir female vocals that I don't like. I like strong vocals from a woman, but that's extremely hard to find in this genre.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Hellborn Goat on October 11, 2006, 06:09:50 pm
You're walking on eggshells saying that around here lol. Everyone loves her. But I agree with you, I don't think she is a very good singer. She sounds like any other person in my old highschool choir, which isn't bad, it's just not good enough to be featured on an album.

I've said it before on the old forum, I wasn't thrilled with her vocals and *gasp* not crazy about The Puppet Master album. I definitely didn't hate it, it just doesn't have much replay value for me because I don't like the vocals.

Well, I think it's healthy to have a bit of negative criticism from time to time of this nature. It would be unrealistic, and actually kind of embarrassing, if everyone here was such a fanboy/girl that they claim to love everything connected to King Diamond's music without question!

Personally, I think the concept of Puppet Master was great, but in retrospect, musically and vocally it perhaps wasn't one of the strongest KD albums.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Beelzebub on October 11, 2006, 08:11:17 pm
I was actually afraid of logging here tonight to check the replies. lol.
I know my opinion isn't a popular one on this delicate matter, and so far, I've kept quiet. Like I said flame wars are useless. I'm glad we can have a civilised discussion. I never force my musical tastes onto others, 'cos I respect people too much and am always willing to hear or read what others think.

This forum is truly amazing. :king: And I'll give you that: She isn't that bad!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: BlackDiamond on October 12, 2006, 12:28:09 am
Well, I think it's healthy to have a bit of negative criticism from time to time of this nature. It would be unrealistic, and actually kind of embarrassing, if everyone here was such a fanboy/girl that they claim to love everything connected to King Diamond's music without question!

Personally, I think the concept of Puppet Master was great, but in retrospect, musically and vocally it perhaps wasn't one of the strongest KD albums.

Exactly! We can't expect King to cater to all of our tastes all the time, and the feminine vocals are just not my taste, but they can certainly be others.

I do love this forum and its members.  :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Nocturne Wraith on October 12, 2006, 03:27:13 pm
I wouldn't mind her appearing on the new album.  If anything, I want King to return to his older vocal style (more falsetto).  I like the vocals on The Puppet Master, but I want him to start wailing again.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: freewheelburning on October 13, 2006, 01:33:30 pm
I prefer not hearing her on the new album too. I prefer King to sing the high vocals, not a female. She did an exellent job on the PM though and I think she is a fine addition to the live band.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Hellborn Goat on October 13, 2006, 04:08:51 pm
If anything, I want King to return to his older vocal style (more falsetto).  I like the vocals on The Puppet Master, but I want him to start wailing again.

I agree with that, it would be great to hear more falsetto on the next album.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Axe Minister on October 18, 2006, 12:32:41 am
I too would rather just hear King on his next album. But definitely with more falsettos. That said, I really liked her harmony parts live. To me it just added that special touch to the vocals, so if not an another studio album in the upcoming future, I would still like to hear her on stage contributing to the backup harmony vocals.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: EvilPat on October 18, 2006, 03:28:57 am
You're walking on eggshells saying that around here lol. Everyone loves her. But I agree with you, I don't think she is a very good singer. She sounds like any other person in my old highschool choir, which isn't bad, it's just not good enough to be featured on an album.

I've said it before on the old forum, I wasn't thrilled with her vocals and *gasp* not crazy about The Puppet Master album. I definitely didn't hate it, it just doesn't have much replay value for me because I don't like the vocals.

But I hated Tarja's vocals too. I think it's just choir female vocals that I don't like. I like strong vocals from a woman, but that's extremely hard to find in this genre.

Deadlock have a really cool and strong girl on some of their songs. Listen to "awakened by sirens" where you can hear her sing. Here is the link to the myspace-site:

http://www.myspace.com/xdeadlockx

Her name is Sabine and you will find her on place no.1 in the deadlock-friends.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Spooky on October 18, 2006, 06:43:58 pm
I think that she did a really good job on The Puppet Master... At the live shows I think she was too low... You almost can't hear her.
Anyway... I might have missed something, but I understand that she's quite new to singing (and what better way to boost your skills than to go on a world tour with one of the best metal bands ever)

I think she will be on the next album... and I think that she will do a good job.
But if she's not on the next album, I hope she will join them on tour as a "harmony maker" :gah:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Raven on October 22, 2006, 12:00:53 pm
I'm of the mindset that many of you have. If it suits the story, then she belongs. King knows what he's doing and will always do what is best for whatever tale he's portraying.

I didn't mind her vocals on Puppet master, there are certainly stronger female vocalists out there, but she fit the aura of what the story was about. I will say this though, I'd rather see a female do the female vocals than King (no matter how good he is at it) it adds that extra touch of authenticity to what is being told. In moderation I think it helps to enhance things.

He hasn't said much as to the plot line of the new album yet has he? (or have I been out of the loop?)

Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: morgana on October 27, 2006, 03:05:33 am
I always loved when King did the female vocals...all the vocal work for Miriam (and Miriam possessed by Abigail) and then Abigail in the second album...

although I can understand that Livia was needed because it was a song that was in the style of a duet, not just a narration of a story.

That said, I hope King's next album is in the narrated format just because I miss that old style. I don't think Livia being in the next album would be such a good idea. The band is called King Diamond for a reason.


i totally agree.....
but king made some duets before....like in the trial....when acting both the inquisitor and the witch and i think it came out very well !!!!
king has a unique stile, he is one of the greatest singers ever...he doesn't need any help!!!! i suppose he put livia's vocals in this recording for a personal reason and i'm no one to contest it, but as a fan i can say i didn't appreciate his choice (musically speaking of course)
when i went to see him in prato (italy) livia was ill, this is what i heard among the crowd, anyway i was happy to have the chance to see him live again alone!!!!!  call it evilness but i have waited for him for 6 long years (last time in italy was in 2000) and i got the tickets for two dates.... unfortunatly many fans will probabily know what happened to the venue in reggio emilia...and the concert was deleyed apparently for stupid reasons!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Count Jonah on October 29, 2006, 01:36:11 am
Livia, IMO has a great voice. She’s like a female version of King when it comes to the higher notes. What’s wrong with that? I would love to see her on the next album, but I hope they drop the semi-autobiographical love stories. It’s too Yoko Ono/John Lennon-ish. I really do love the Puppetmaster, but lines like: “the things we like are all the same” just shouldn’t have been on there.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Lady_In_Black on October 29, 2006, 07:30:40 am
With all do respect, I'm praying to Satan Livia isan't on the new album at all. 
uahuahahuahua :fingers:
well, I don´t care if Livia put her lovely voice on the next album. She did a great job on "Blue Eyes"
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: TwilightKing on October 29, 2006, 08:51:19 am
Livia rulez. 'nuff said. \m/
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: mario on October 29, 2006, 11:28:57 pm
I  prefer only the voice of King, and I´m agreement with many, I want to listen more falsettos....... but if Livia is included, is because king  consider that she will be an important element for the album, like in the puppet master :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Shadowswhisper on October 30, 2006, 02:35:10 pm
Well i do have to say that in my opinion Livia was a nice addition to the album her vocals just fit the theme and also gave a great mood to the over all concept especially in the song Magic.

Course king could have done the album solo but then the essence of what he wanted to capture wouldn't have been there.


 :king: Stay heavy
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Maiden Jersey on October 30, 2006, 02:52:24 pm
if it fits the music why not, IMO she has a good voice.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: castle5 on November 02, 2006, 04:22:46 pm
i believe livia is kings wife. he includes her because she is part of the family business now. we dont know her personally so we have no way of knowing her music talent. ill support any king diamond effort. he has always been true to his metal fans, i have never been let down at any of his shows. im sad that he couldnt work in another fate recording and tour tho.. :cool:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: CorpseWithoutASoul on November 02, 2006, 07:31:32 pm
She definitely wasn't overused on The Puppet Master. The parts she sang really fit well. All in all I'd say she was a refreshing change in sound from King Diamond. The song So Sad was exactly that!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: swintek on November 02, 2006, 11:19:08 pm
I think she is a big part of why The Puppet Master is so great. It really brought a true (even more!) dramatic element to a King record. Of course we all know that he's capable of doing a female slant on his voice if need be, but why not go for the real deal! My first thought upon hearing her parts was "yes! of course! Why did he wait so long?" I think having that extra dramatic element also inspired him to write his best material in years as well.

I echo most of you though: whatever the man wants, will be the right choice.

Ron
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Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: paulcoz on November 03, 2006, 01:15:23 am
Livia is a competent singer, but she doesn't have a -great- voice (IMO). Her voice suits The Puppet Master perfectly! I don't want him to rehash the sound of his last record, because it's unique.

I would also like more shrieking falsettos on the new album, but King should do only what he thinks is appropriate...where vocals are concerned, he knows best.

Paul.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: maarten. on November 03, 2006, 10:00:47 am
indeed, kings knows best what suits the story.
before i had the puppetmaster, i had read some interviews and they were all saying there were almost no falsettos in it and a female singer would be in it, and i thought to myself, "damn, that must be the worst CD ever".... but then i listened to the album and it just blew me away, it all fitted so damn well, so for me, i just wait and see what nice king has for me in a few months :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: RipperBendix on November 08, 2006, 03:22:55 am
I think using Livia for the female vocal parts would be more than logical. So if there are any female characters on the new album it definitely would be more sensible to have her sing them instead of having King do it.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Dr. Landau on November 08, 2006, 08:30:04 pm
No Livia for me on the next album!  I like Puppet Master a lot but let the concept be!!  I love my wife, value her input and think she would have some fresh ideas about my line of work but to say I have to include her because she is part of my family is not true.  King and Livia are not attached at the hip (well maybe sometimes).  I am sure when they wed she knew what their lifestyle together would be like.  By the way, the whole sequel album thing only worked once.  I don't think King should make another sequel to any album. 

Brad
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: vonseux on November 15, 2006, 06:26:32 am
Man, what i wanted most is to see a re-recording (or live version) of THE TRIAL and Abigail with Livia playng the female role... it would be amazing.

i've always dreamed of this like Bonus Tracks on PM, and i was a liittle sad that it was'nt on Deadly Lullabies, maybe next

what i loke most about Livia is that she has the same vocal tune of King's
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: TheUnnamedOne on November 15, 2006, 08:18:11 am
Livia is a great singer with a great voice IMO. I don't mind hearing her on the new album, but it depends on what the story is.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: blackblood on November 20, 2006, 10:59:09 am
I will buy and love the album anyway but I hope she is not in the new album,other than in the "thanks",imo having her in The Puppetmaster in such a heavy dose certainly was something that made that album unique,but as great as that album was,I believe that deep down it was one of the reasons I've loved that album less than others,hopefully the presence of orchestral parts in the new album(I think I've read about it somewhere)won't have the same effect.Back on Puppetmaster it's pretty funny how just very few fans focused on the fact that the story,if you cut the gruesome,horror-splatter stuff is a wonderful love story,something that would have been trashed by the most of the metal fans if it wasn't for the horror scenario where King puts the main characters,and basically I believe deep down that story may have been a sort of beautiful tribute from King to Livia for their love(Livia is King's woman),and in fact it was King himself in a post in the old forum to answer to one of my mails kinda admitting it.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: vonseux on November 20, 2006, 12:20:47 pm
so king surfs the net?  ;D


Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Penumbra on November 20, 2006, 02:17:34 pm
and in fact it was King himself in a post in the old forum to answer to one of my mails kinda admitting it.

Really? :gah:

And i heard something about King not wanting to even go near an internet :gah:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: vonseux on November 20, 2006, 03:20:10 pm
Really? :gah:

And i heard something about King not wanting to even go near an internet :gah:


that's what i knew.... how life shoulde be without the net, uhm?
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: blackblood on November 22, 2006, 03:31:16 pm
Really? :gah:

And i heard something about King not wanting to even go near an internet :gah:

Really,I have surely saved that post somewhere,btw he wrote just very few posts in an old version of the forum,it was a time before the release of Puppet Master,after the Abigail 2 release,Livia if I'm not wrong had "Midnight" as nick,they probably were forced to use internet a bit more to talk to each other,King was kind enough to answer some questions,it was the time where every King fan was buzzed about the fact King had announced the band would have played Abigail 1 and 2 on stage,I was talking about it and he answered he never talked about doing the two whole albums,just several or most songs form the two plus some classics,it was a very interesting time cause I was really starting to think that a serious DVD-live recording of the show was really seriously planned,and being such a huge Abigail fan to me that was awesome,too bad we know how things went down,there was no Abigail 2 proper tour with that long awaited DVD shoot and King concentrated himself on creating his next opus,Puppet Master,located in Budapest,Hungary where if I'm not wrong King met Livia in 99(MF 9 tour).
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: vonseux on November 22, 2006, 04:08:52 pm
Really,I have surely saved that post somewhere,btw he wrote just very few posts in an old version of the forum,it was a time before the release of Puppet Master,after the Abigail 2 release,Livia if I'm not wrong had "Midnight" as nick,they probably were forced to use internet a bit more to talk to each other,King was kind enough to answer some questions,it was the time where every King fan was buzzed about the fact King had announced the band would have played Abigail 1 and 2 on stage,I was talking about it and he answered he never talked about doing the two whole albums,just several or most songs form the two plus some classics,it was a very interesting time cause I was really starting to think that a serious DVD-live recording of the show was really seriously planned,and being such a huge Abigail fan to me that was awesome,too bad we know how things went down,there was no Abigail 2 proper tour with that long awaited DVD shoot and King concentrated himself on creating his next opus,Puppet Master,located in Budapest,Hungary where if I'm not wrong King met Livia in 99(MF 9 tour).


interesting
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Envenomed627 on November 23, 2006, 12:49:11 pm
I wouldnt mind it
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: johnnieczech on November 24, 2006, 06:55:32 am
ow, forget to ask this, but is it the girl of the movie 'the poltergost" (not sure how to write it, but that movie of that girl talking o the TV and that old tree kidnapping that boy)?

That girl died long time ago, Heather O'Rourke was her name.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: King Diamond 666 on November 29, 2006, 06:05:16 pm
she is great on the album there is nothing wrong with her she played the roll of victoria puttin hr in makes the story better i wouldnt mind her on the new album she dosent sing much on it anyways :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: CorpseWithoutASoul on November 29, 2006, 07:12:09 pm
There are some fantastic duets on this album. And all the parts that Livia sang really fit. As far as her being in future albums I'll just leave that up to King to decide. The Puppet Master is his best in years.  \m/
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: King Diamond 666 on December 04, 2006, 07:47:04 pm
who knows what livia looks like
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Human Hatred on December 05, 2006, 12:38:51 am
I loved her vocals and she and king diamond kicked ass live! My woman and i held each other front row and got tears in our eyes when king diamond played so sad. because that was our song. Sadly my true love passed of cancer, but yes she added to it, And the memory of that magic night with my baby in my arms and king and livia singing live, still lingers. My king diamond tattoo on my arm stays but i hope my loves memory never fades, King shook my hand that night when he looked upon my tattoo.  so sad  so sad.. I played that at hey funeral.. anyway enuff sad storys..  HS. isaac :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: vonseux on December 05, 2006, 02:54:41 am
who knows what livia looks like

there she is

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5579/liviada0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Satan's Portrait on December 05, 2006, 07:37:02 am
She looks so young. Anyone know how old she is?
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: CorpseWithoutASoul on December 05, 2006, 08:23:27 am
Isn't she the puppet girl in this live performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVywaS2Rn8
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: King on December 05, 2006, 10:19:56 am
Isn't she the puppet girl in this live performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wVywaS2Rn8

that is not livia,it is jodi, she is a actress for the songs stories,she has a myspace place
 
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: russian_banger on December 05, 2006, 12:16:37 pm
Yeah, naked!!! :king:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: zorrow on December 05, 2006, 01:26:59 pm
I don't care if she sings, but just a little. More than that would be too much. King Diamond is not Nightwish after all! :fingers:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Lord Sammael on December 05, 2006, 02:19:17 pm
King and Livia are married at last? Great to hear that! I wish them all of the best!

Yeah, I knew Livia personally in the old forums and she was among the finest persons I've ever known. She was King's most loyal fan ever. Her nick was "Midnight" and she used to serve as a 'bridge' between we, the mortals, and King.

The Puppet Master is an serious ass-kicking album, just not better than the first Abigail in my opinion. King's falsettos fit perfectly in his 80's music, but nowadays, most of people who like King's songs do so because of the powerful instrumental melody, disliking most of the falsettos. I think King should never overuse falsettos again, using them just do add some flavour to some parts of the songs, and leaving most of the female voices to Livia. I love her voice exactly because it does not sound 'operatic' like Tarja's, she sounds like a sweet normal girl which fits very well in most of King's female characters and makes it almost impossible for her to eclipse our King's brilliance. King does not need Livia, but she surely is an amazing adittion to our master's sound.

By the way... good to see some people from ancient DBU here... Hail Count Jonah! Hail Ripper Bendix! Hail Black Blood! Where is mr. Renzo van Soelen?
Hail Diamondbangers!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: RipperBendix on December 10, 2006, 09:02:25 am
By the way... good to see some people from ancient DBU here... Hail Count Jonah! Hail Ripper Bendix! Hail Black Blood! Where is mr. Renzo van Soelen?
Hail Diamondbangers!

oi, thank you!  :gah:
what was your username on the DBU?
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Fatal Portrait 92 on December 12, 2006, 07:06:08 pm
livia is great i wouldnt mide her on the new album  i could see how you dont like her you've been used to kings voice for over 20yrs i've only beeen lisening to him for 3 months puppet master is his best album  :king: \m/
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: mika666 on December 13, 2006, 01:06:02 am
With all do respect, I don't.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Fatal Portrait 92 on December 14, 2006, 05:05:51 pm
if the new album isnt a continuation of the puppet master then livia might not be on it  \m/ :king: thats what i think  :) :fingers: :gah: :cool:
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: 666miles on January 01, 2007, 07:23:16 pm
If The new album is a continuation of The Puppet Master I won't mind her on it but I really would rather her not be on it. I like her but I like King more.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: 666miles on January 04, 2007, 02:01:04 pm
Actually, the more I listen to puppet master the more I like her. I guess I wouldn't mind her.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: King Diamond 666 on February 07, 2007, 02:46:21 pm
There's nothing wrong with livia
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: megalodonbite on February 08, 2007, 08:26:43 am
After seeing her live, who wouldn't want her back?  Especially seeing her do No Presents...those who saw know what I mean.  Her voice is immaculate also.   :D
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: 666miles on March 09, 2007, 07:00:23 am
Well she's on the album.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Mohican on March 13, 2007, 04:24:46 pm
This thread reminds me about a friend of mine first time hearing the song "Magic" when Livia started to sing.

"LOL ! This man sounds like a woman !!"

 :gah:


That reminded me one time when we were in a band rehearsals...and there was this band before us and we started to chat...and somehow we started to discuss about King Diamond...when suddenly one of the guys from the other band said: "Yeah of course i know this band King Diamond, the music is pretty good, but i don`t like the singer in the band. Who is he? What`s he`s name?"

I dont know about you guys, but it made us laugh like hell at the time  :fingers:

Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: blackstonewielder on March 14, 2007, 10:44:27 am
Her appearance on the puppetmaster album made me fall in love with the album. I am also really happy to hear that she will make an appearance on the new album.

It is beyond originality and it adds tons to the album in my opinion.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: lightninfeet on March 15, 2007, 07:42:24 am
After seeing her live, who wouldn't want her back?  Especially seeing her do No Presents...those who saw know what I mean.  Her voice is immaculate also.   :D

HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Luciana on March 20, 2007, 08:54:11 pm
I´m sure will be a great album with or without her
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Nibiru on March 26, 2007, 12:56:41 am
I liked Livia on Puppet Master and Live. It brought a new element to KD without really changing too much. It also fits along with the story lines better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: palavos3 on May 18, 2007, 09:01:52 pm
Are you guys sure King and Livia are married and not just real good friends? Has this been confirmed anywhere? From what I heard she is a Hungarian student.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: miranda on May 18, 2007, 09:16:16 pm
Are you guys sure King and Livia are married and not just real good friends? Has this been confirmed anywhere? From what I heard she is a Hungarian student.
yes. it has been confirmed.

Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Scumdog on May 18, 2007, 09:21:24 pm
I like Livia, and I'm glad she's on the album.
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Jackal on May 19, 2007, 03:40:44 am
Wow, I didn't expect this thread to get this large!

So turns out she's only on the last track. Nice!
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Syme on May 19, 2007, 03:46:10 am
Wow, I didn't expect this thread to get this large!

So turns out she's only on the last track. Nice!
You're wrong about that:
http://www.covenworldwide.org/CWWforum/index.php?topic=637.msg23718#msg23718

I'm glad she is on almost every song :)
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Jackal on May 19, 2007, 03:48:25 am
You're wrong about that:
http://www.covenworldwide.org/CWWforum/index.php?topic=637.msg23718#msg23718

I'm glad she is on almost every song :)

Oh shit!

 :'(
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: TwilightKing on May 19, 2007, 05:08:41 am
Oh shit!

 :'(
Oh shit? I say, OH FUCK YEAH!!!
Livia Rocks!  \m/
Title: Re: Does anyone else not want Livia on the new album?
Post by: Bub on May 19, 2007, 05:17:56 am
Oh shit!

 :'(

If you don't like it, don't buy the new cd. Or get over it.



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