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Offline Alexis

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Live in hilversum bootleg
« on: December 15, 2012, 03:47:07 am »
Hi,

i have bought live in hilversum bootleg, black vinyl RED label no matrix
Does anybody know which version this is
I hoped to have bought the original 1984 bootleg but it shouldnt
Thanks

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2012, 04:01:47 am »
New bootleg...

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2012, 04:02:51 am »

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2012, 10:35:50 am »
Even if it's a reprint of this bootleg and you don't have the original...it's still a nice bootleg to own.

I have the cd version (Werewolves In Hilversum) and it's a great bootleg.  :cool:
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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2012, 11:16:58 am »
bub, i have this werewolve cd as well and indeed how heavy
But i really want to know what item i have
the original have white labels, you have red vinyl with red labels but yes this one black vinyl, RED labels
It's still a mystery for me :(

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2012, 11:33:08 am »
bub, i have this werewolve cd as well and indeed how heavy
But i really want to know what item i have
the original have white labels, you have red vinyl with red labels but yes this one black vinyl, RED labels
It's still a mystery for me :(

No mystery. It is a new bootleg - that is, a third one... from this year.
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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2012, 01:06:06 pm »
any value mike steel?
i paid Eur 100,-- for it, too much?

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 01:11:24 pm »
any value mike steel?
i paid Eur 100,-- for it, too much?
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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 02:11:30 pm »
This is the version I mentioned in the bootlegs-thread a few weeks ago. This has occured together with a lot of counterfeits of (mostly) rare Black/Death-Metal records in late November this year. A few of them have not been released on vinyl before (Ulver - Bergtatt or Ancient Rites - Fatherland for example). Also interesting, among them there is a new version of the "Fuck the Slayer"-Bootleg.

This should be the complete list (I do not guarantee that, though):

Absurd - Facta Loquuntur LP
Ancient rites / Uncanny split LP
Ancient - Trolltaar
Ancient rites - Blasfemia eternal
Ancient rites - Fatherland
Asmodina - Inferno
Aura Noir - Black thrash attack
Borknagar - Borknagar
Burzum - Det som engang var (Cover of the old version on Cymophane)
Burzum - Aske
Burzum - Burzum
Carpathian Forest- Through chasm, caves and titan woods
Darkthrone holy Darkthrone tribute
Darkthrone - Panzerfaust
Deicide - In torment in hell
Deicide - Insineratehymn
Desaster - A touch of medieval darkness
Dimmu Borgir - For all tid (No Colours Records version)
Dodheimsgard - Kronet til konge
Dodheimsgard - Monumental possession
Forgotten Woods - As the wolves gather
Gehenna - First spell
Gorgoroth - Antichrist
Gorgoroth - Pentagram
Horrified - Eternal god
Invocator - Weave the apocalypse
Kampfar - Mellom skogkledde naser
Kawir - To cavirs
Malignant Eternal - Tarnet
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Mayhem - Live in Leipzig
Mayhem/Morbid - Tribute to the Black Emperors
Mercyful Fate - Live Hilversum
Merciless - The awakening
Neptune Towers- Caravans to empire Algol
Neptune Towers- Transmissions from empire Algol
Ozzy Osbourne - Down to earth
Pentagram (Chile) - Pentagram (compilation)
Primordial -Imrama
Rotting christ - Passage to Arcturo
Running wild - Black hand inn
Satyricon - Dark medieval times Alternative "Pesten 1349" cover
Slayer - Fuck the slayer
Septic Flesh - Temple of the lost race
Sigh - Scorn defeat with original DSP artwork
Ulver - Bergtatt
Unanimated - Ancient god of evil
Wongraven - Fjelltronen
Zyklon-B - Blood Must Be Shed

For the Mayhem/Morbid LP, the  Kawir and the Desaster LP (and now Hilversum) I know they do not have any matrix numbers so if this is the case for the others to, it should be easy to distinguish them from the original releases. And yes, Alexis, you did pay too much. All of them have been offered by various German mailorders for 25-35€, depending on the stores. I thought about buying this version of Hilversum and the Satyricon - DMT bootleg for 25€ each but decided against it. They have also been circulating at ebay and at least the "Fuck the Slayer"-Counterfeit and the Satyricon-LP went for insane amounts of money.

Would be interesting to know where they sourced these records from, as a few of them have never been officially released on vinyl up to now.




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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 02:26:59 pm »
Hi Unlight,

i noticed this live at hilversum at ebay.nl.
It started at eur 40,00 and i really thuoght i was the original 1 so i bid 100 euro and asked him to get it from ebay which he did.
now this was my mistake. i didn't know i had red label otherwise a didn't do it but was my own mistake
Now on ebay.nl somebody else offer another live in hilversum and he told me it is  blue vinyl. shall be new bootleg as well
I'm glad that i'm on this forum which nice honest people.
Now also bought 7 inch black massas and single from aardschokdag 84. These are indeed originals pffff
up to the next items

Have a nice weekend

alexis

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2012, 07:08:28 am »
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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2012, 08:45:16 am »
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Nah... For the original that is almost for free... So totally understandable imo.

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2012, 09:12:54 am »
Undercover Records from Germany has it in stock again for 25€. The also have a copy of the black vinyl version of "No mercy for Montral", but they are charging 70€ for it, which is too much in my opinion.

Well, it is indeed understandable to offer 100€ if you think it is the original press but I think if it is going to that dimensions, you should double check with the seller that it is indeed an original release. Too much shit is floating around nowadays, as people have found out how much money can be made with those rare records. Just my personal opinion, though.  :icon_wink:

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2012, 12:09:24 pm »
Unlight, i fully agree with you but was my mistake
ofcourse i knew 100 euro is too less if it should ber the original but i gave it a shot.
Was too long time ago that i checked MF stuff and didn't knew that of this bootleg also fake copies were on the market. But with this i learn and keep me sharp/ Now i first check i something is original. Thank you for your reply

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2012, 04:26:19 pm »
Alexis, this was not menat to offend you in any way. This can happen to everyone who collects records, and those fake copies have been floating around for only about three weeks now. And it is not that everyone could spend that much time on the web to be aware of every new bootleg that is coming along.  :icon_wink:

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Re: Live in hilversum bootleg
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2013, 03:56:49 am »
untill now i only heard the songs from live in hilversum which were broadcasted but yesterday finally heard the whole concert
what an amazing concert was this, all were on it's best, specially king, what a voice. so heavy. I think 1 of the best concerts ever heard from MF. Stay heavy!